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 Post subject: Does Chaos staff really worth it ?
PostPosted: 07 Nov 2017, 07:24 
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I've already came across this with some of the GM team. However, I keep the opinion on the fact that Chaos staff isn't fair compare to the other chaos weapons.

If we compare... Let's say chaos weapons for warrior to the other best tier weapon for warrior ...

Chaos axe of life :
Attack power : 263
Fire damage : 150
HP bonus : 500
Health bonus : 10
Elements resist : 30

Chaos spear of life :
Attack power : 257
Fire damage : 150
HP bonus : 500
Health bonus : 10
Elements resist : 30


Tier sword :
Attack power : 262 (267 with green gem)
Lightning damage : 130
Health bonus : 10
Dex bonus : 10
Elements resist : 20


And now mage chaos weapons compare to the best tier weapons for mage :

Chaos staff of life :
Attack power : 163
Fire/Ice/Light damage : 55
HP bonus : 700
Intelligence bonus : 20
Elements resist : 30
Requirments : 112 int / 150 MP

Chaotic/Scorching staffs :
Attack power : 155
Fire/Ice/Light damage : 80
Health bonus : 11
Dagger defence ability : 14
Requirments : 112 Int/118 MP
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Conclusion : Can you explain me, why does warrior don't lose a single stats ? While mage gotta sacrifice some of their stats to have something else ..?

Where I'm going is, If we want to get that 700 HP bonus, we can just go 255 mp, rest HP, and use the undefeatable staffs, and we're gonna have 700 hp, since basicly, HP stats for mage is mostly to fight other mages, not to fight melees. So there is absolutely no benefits for us to use Chaos staff. We usually go 112 int for the minor dagger defence boost from the Scorching/Chaotic staff, and we won't even have it using the chaos staff.

Here's my suggestion... Either
1. Remove the int requirement for the Chaos staff
2. Add the 14 dagger defence on the chaos staff

Let me hear your thaughts/opinions.

PS. I've checked rogues chaos weapons, and its pretty much similar to the warrior stats/boost/nerf


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Chaos weapons are kinda useless for all classes. Bıt i disagree with giving hp bonus or defence to chaos weapons. It would be if add more ap bonus to all chaos weapons.

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NobraN wrote:
Chaos weapons are kinda useless for all classes. Bıt i disagree with giving hp bonus or defence to chaos weapons. It would be if add more ap bonus to all chaos weapons.


Chaos weapons already have HP bonus to all of them :lol:
However, if adding more AP to them, it would only make them outstats the other tier. however, it might be a good thing. I'm already bored of Tier weapons lmao -.-


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Actually we need dark knight weapons here :)

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Actually we need dark knight weapons here :)


Bring UTC weapons ahahah More AP less bonus


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NobraN wrote:
Actually we need dark knight weapons here :)


Bring UTC weapons ahahah More AP less bonus

I like utc weapons as well but dark knight weapons looks more sexy.

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The problem is that they bring new weapons in game and they dont make them more powerful than the others , so there is no reason to buy them.
As you say, if they added more ap on attackers' weapons and some more hp or def on priest weapon, the weapons would be a lot more useful.


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They actually made decreese to black t shield and mace they removed 50 up bonus. But they should up deffence on c staff. And remove t staff from game or make it 2 hand weapon

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PostPosted: 07 Nov 2017, 23:33 
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already tried to make the points clear here: viewtopic.php?f=111&t=44440

The basic idea of C weapons used to be
lil less AP but more HP.
If we give C weps more AP it would be more like Hero Weapons...

They should just give an alternativ but should not outperform colored Tiers.

I usually see Mages using Fulitol, Faun, Molok and rarely see them using Scorching, Oasis, Elysium or Hellblood. They dont even loot those staffs from Isi/ Ultima...

thats why Id like to:
- reduce AP on the Krowaz staffs
- increase HP on C staff
- make Tstaff a 2handed support staff.
like we talked in this topic: viewtopic.php?f=117&t=44965

@ Nike the small changes on gems bonus was good. Gems are more balanced now.
Silver is still cheapest but the price gap isnt so big like before.
every gem got its value now.


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See my reply in this topic: viewtopic.php?f=117&t=44965
We might continue to discuss there!

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